Podcast
What Better Safety Leadership Looks Like
Safety initiatives are easy to launch. Making safer behavior stick is the real test.
Dr. Ken Wagner has spent 30 years studying the human side of safety performance. In this episode of The Pragmatic Safety Podcast, he joins TenForce COO Julia Dubois to explore why some safety programs become part of everyday operations while others quietly disappear.
Watch the episode to learn:
- Why safety should be a core value, not a shifting priority
- Why new initiatives fail when leaders aren’t equipped to reinforce them
- How cascading accountability turns good intentions into daily behavior
- Why zero-incident targets don’t always create safer operations
- How technology and AI can support human judgment without replacing it
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About Dr. Ken Wagner
Dr. Ken Wagner is the founder of Daylight Advisory and holds a doctorate in cognitive and behavioral psychology. He has worked with organizations across six continents, helping leaders understand human behavior and build safer, more consistent performance.